new box ....... confused again

[snaponron]

hello geeks , i bought an nfusion 2day, after reading everything i could, i managed to sucessfully load my new bin , while following the step by step

i am using a homeplug powerline networking kit(made by iogear) these units plug into 110 and one cable goes to the internet connection , of course one goes to the stb (simulates hard wire i guess) its not a wireless device

in the instructions for the homeplus it says to plug one end to the ethernet plug on my computer , here's where i am kind dumb

i have my internet plugged into that spot via a wireless router
(lynksys2.4ghz wrt54gs)

i assume i maybe should plug it into the back of the router but i dont think it actually working(cables hooked up but have not been able to pick up a wireless signal for awhile now , just kinda forgot about it)

someone else hooked up my wireless router so im kinda confused here

anyone know what i am talking about , i could sure use your help

also the device said that when it was working it will idicate with a internet connection message in the toolbar , i have not seen anything

thanks

[snaponron]

i have disconnected my wireless router all together and still dont get it , if i unplug the cable going from the modem to my pc and plug my device in , how does my pc have a internet connection now?

[snaponron]

i only have one ethernet plug -in in the back of my pc , maybe this is why i am confused , if i plug in my device i am unplugging the cable going to the modem , do i need two ethernet ports on my pc ??

[friendlybear]

You were correct in your first post, connect one to STB, one to router. Once you have everything connected, remove power from router for 10 seconds and then reconnect. Your router should then give an IP to the Homeplug unit. That should then connect to the STB. Make sure that your STB is set for DHCP. If it does not get a red light right away, force it to request an IP by rebooting it.

[snaponron]

i dont think my router was actually working i have now removed it all together , how else can i do this without the router?

cheers man for the help

[friendlybear]

You need the router to get multiple devices to run from one IP. Only other way (without router) is to make sure you can get two IP's from provider and use a switch. You are way better off with the router, though.

[snaponron]

i'll get a new router tommorow and try that , this one seems to be pooched ,

i did try to do what u earlier suggested but when the router is in play i get no int connection at all no matter what i unplug or disconnect for how long!!!


thanks again , i'll report back when get this part figured out

thanks again friendly bear

cheers

[friendlybear]

One more thing, if you have internet through a provider (eg. telus, bellsouth) that requires a mac address to be registered you will have to either register the router mac or spoof your computers mac to the router.

[JTmustang302]

if you were on the internet using your other router then its not pouched.

don't waste your money yet. hook it back up and run an ethernet cable from the router to the nfusion.

[raging_alcoholic]

yes I agree with Jt...I have nfusion ...same router ...but use nertgear xe102

[kooze]

hey snaponron , there is nuttin wrong with your router , i had the same problem, just gotta make sure your router IP address is in your computer and on your nufusion follow all direction and it will work...

[snaponron]

if you were on the internet using your other router then its not pouched.

don't waste your money yet. hook it back up and run an ethernet cable from the router to the nfusion.

that would be a long ethernet cable (150 ft) , when i plug in my homelink bridge it doesnt pick up my ip or anything on the stb , so i dont think its workin,

i have run the one ethernet cable from the router out to the homelink
i have the other run into my stb all through the 110 in the house

i was messin arround with network majic for two days now and when i tried to setup a new network it set my router was only set up for hard wire connections wtf

i have no clue , been readin for days

any ideas where i can get the info to self teach myself ?

[snaponron]

also my add that i have only had this pc a few months now , the router is still the same as last pc that crashed , wonderin if i have to have a wireless card installed in one of the slots on my pc , im not very computer literate , but i know a little, this new pc was built by a tech wizard , so i hope i have the needed hardware

[snaponron]

just read this in another forum here at geeks

again i am running a wrt54gs for my router , it says below that it failed

Tested Routers for NFusion

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Routers for Nfusion


Tested and WORKING

* AT&T 6800G
* Belkin Wireless G
* Belkin Pre-N
* Belkin Wireless N
* Belkin F5D8233-4 N
* Buffalo WHR-HP-G54
* D-Link EBR-2310
* D-Link DI-524
* D-Link DI-604I
* D-Link DI-614+
* D-Link DI-624
* D-Link DI-704P
* D-Link DI-704UP
* D-Link DIR655
* D Link WBR-2310
* D-Link WBR-1310
* Linksys BEFSR41
* Linksys BEFW11S4
* Linksys WAP55AG
* Linksys WRT150N
* Linksys WRT300N
* Linksys WRT350N
* Linksys WRT54G (various versions)
* Linksys WRT54GL V.1.1
* Linksys WRVS4400N
* Linksys WRTP54G
* Netgear WGR614
* Nexland Pro800 Turbo
* Westell VersaLink 327

Tested and FAILED

* Linksys WRT54G Version 5
* Linksys WRT54GS

[snaponron]

yes I agree with Jt...I have nfusion ...same router ...but use nertgear xe102

i am so confused does this router work , it appears to be on the failed list of routers
again im using homelink for a bridge and it works for other folks........confirmed

[snaponron]

k i think im getting more and more messed up , maybe i dont even need to set up a wireless network , just the router , is this true?

the red light is on ........on my stb , whick i think means iks is activated and working

i have no ip sub mask or gateway info just remote server ip

[snaponron]

update

i have gone through the set up menu
(cuz i'm bored and need help with the connection part) ......set up my dish and scanned for channels

what i find odd is i am getting an updated guide , channels are there signal strength is awesome , but when i go to a channel it tells me no service

ah crap so close:(

[snaponron]

ok i have a confirmed wireless network set up now thanx to shockwave in the computer tech help forum , red light is still on, i have tried everything that i read about a few times , any ideas , i have 145.2 loaded sucessfully , have right everything actually , but the stb is not doin its thing , i have been trying to set up this box since mar17 , i'm inches away from throwing it thru the freakin window, it won't be pretty:throw:

what a time i picked to quit smokin............arrrrrgh

[skybliss]

Just my 2 cents - did u try to flip back and forth main switch behind stb now after u went thru all of that things?
Mine is working...

[snaponron]

yup i have many times and yes 3 minutes ago again

[skybliss]

Snap, don't throw it away yet, it works well just something is wrong with setup.
I had that a$$pain too...
Internet settings: what it says?

[snaponron]

it says ........i-off/n-on/p-off/emu off

i have no ip
no subnet mask
no gateway
there is numbers in the remote ip

[skybliss]

It means you have no internet connections for now...
Did u try also flip on/off the router???
U must wait at least 30 sec before switching it on. SAME thing with stb!!!
Here is the setup: stb-user settings- dolby off, emulator off, autoroll on, primary channel bev or d---sh
stb - system settings- TP ch auto update -on
stb- internet-network on, auto update check on, proxy connection off

[skybliss]

Internet MUST be on!!!

[snaponron]

ill go do that exactly and come back

[snaponron]

ok my settings are the same exactly

i understand my internet must be on , how do i do that

network is on



also unplugged both for two min

[skybliss]

As i see you run wireless, that's maybe the prob now...
Why you can't try strait cable from router to stb?
Explain it...

[snaponron]

cuz its 50ft away

[snaponron]

um now im confused , i understand that if you cant run the cable directly(hard wired)
you must set up a wireless network!!! done ...... my cat5 cable comes out of the router plugged into a homelink bridge , other end is run from homelink(plugged in) to stb
it appears iks is on cuz that red light is on(which will help in the aiming part when i get out my 12 guage)

[skybliss]

Shit!!!! Only the possibility to check that u need to get it done thru the cable.
I got one for me from home depot. There it is much cheaper than radio shack.
Or i can give u even better option if u can borrow it from someone or buy from monoprice.com Sure u need it longer then 50, maybe 75 feet.
Have patience and u will see. Monoprice is just incredible with prices.
Let me know what u do.

[skybliss]

When i was typing u just sent out one more post.
That's the only way cause u plugged in the bridge link
,

[snaponron]

and if i could run it directly what would that tell me ? that my nfusion is working fine?

its clear to me now , maybe i'll run 24 volts thru it and give it a kick start:rolleyes:

[skybliss]

Maybe it is possible that the parts just too far away from each other and the signal is week.

[skybliss]

and if i could run it directly what woulf that tell me ? that my nfusion is working fine?

its clear to me now , maybe i'll run 24 volts thru it and give it a kick start:rolleyes:

No-no, don't do that,lol.....:eek::eek::eek::eek:
U just need to run straight

[skybliss]

After u confirm that u got internet ON, then u can play around with it, mean that stb is working and u see tv

[snaponron]

Maybe it is possible that the parts just too far away from each other and the signal is week.

the two homelinks are less than 30 ft (direct) and the cat5 cables are only 3 ft long so i cant be any closer

[snaponron]

After u confirm that u got internet ON, then u can play around with it, mean that stb is working and u see tv

ok i understand that part , but if my red light is on does that not mean that iks is on and that the connection is there?

[skybliss]

It seems that u need to get rid of the homelink or replace it with better quality.
Listen, i was in your shoes before too and feel ur pain, that's why i help ya.
Right now it's homelinks, something is wrong with them,(setup maybe) check it away if ya can

[skybliss]

ok i understand that part , but if my red light is on does that not mean that iks is on and that the connection is there?
I think that when red light is on there is no signal from internet or something else. When my is working there is no red light on!!!
Ooops!!! Red is on!!!

[snaponron]

I think that when red light is on there is no signal from internet or something else. When my is working there is no red light on!!!


first of all thank -you for taking the time to help me , you rock!~

but i have read many times that the red light means you have iks

is this not true?:noclue:

[snaponron]

ok i give up , i will go to home depot , what do i need? just a 50 ft ethernet cable , do they sell them that long or do they make it? and maybe i can buy a very big hammer as well lol:cool:

[skybliss]

Okay, to tell ya the truth, right now i use coolsat6000 and my fusion is off.
When i cant see tv on cs i plug in fusion. that way i have tv all the time.
U know, last time i saw it it was off and working.
But it's irrelevant now...for ya.... To be sure u must try straight connection.
Sorry for that.
I suggest one more way: try to take your laptop if u have one to that place whrer ur stb is now and see if u got it working wireless. GOT it???

[skybliss]

Try to measure up the distance - corners, bents and it sure adds up. Take at least 75" They have even longer, i saw it in the store. No hammer yet,

[snaponron]

yes i do have a laptop and i will try that too also i have a wireless aircard also so i can be sure of the connection , good idea skybliss thanks again

[skybliss]

U are welcome, man

[skybliss]

One more point, if u do use aircard, try to set it picking up the signal from homelinks,
NOT other way around!!!

[skybliss]

Yes, red light must be ON when all is good. Sorry for misinfo, sometimes it's hard to see from angle position in my room.

[snaponron]

hey sky bliss i am happy to report that my box is up and running awesome
the problem turned out to be a bad cat5 cable, i had bought two nfusiions at once and two homelink packages , so after trying everything i swapped cables and within seconds i had tv,

wow i learned alot this last week , and now i have a wireless network set up
which is awesome, thanks again to shockwave for that side of it

you guys are always so helpfull , this is my 4th box and i learned it all here , guess i should renew my vip which is up soon


thanks again to everybody:rockon:

[skybliss]

Snaponron, way to go man... Glad to be of some help to you!!!
To renew your mem, it's a good idea, anyway.
Did u got 2 nFusions and what else?

[skybliss]

Now, if you want, u may return the cable u bought from the store, as it's no need to have so many.

[snaponron]

lol thanx again bliss

[skybliss]

No probs, be happy:D:D:D