kenkell1
02-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Saw this on another site but haven't tried it yet.
Ciel II @ 129°W
Have seen this bird mentioned in several threads. YES, it is officially active. Yes, it has a boat-load of channels. Yes, it uses spot-beam technology for most locals (perhaps all - if not, probably soon) which could throw a spanner into the NFL fan's plans next season.
Your current bin may or may not have a complete list of transponders for this orbital slot. Many don't as the wobbly bird that Ciel II replaced was unable to manage a full-power transmission with the full set active and therefore didn't.
If using a SonicView 360 Elite/Premier or other stb that has a network scan option, simply turn it on and do a regular satellite scan (some may have this option as a separate scan and in that case just do it). A network scan should add missing transponders even with only one active transponder in that satellite's list.
If using a stb that doesn't have the network scan option but does have a decent blind scan option (one that won't give duplicates) then you can use it. Often when one gets duplicates it is because the pre-programmed transponder list is slightly incorrect - off a couple mHz one way or the other on a few transponders so that when one blind scans and the correct transponder frequencies are added, both the correct and incorrect one will give the same channels. This is easily fixed by removing the incorrect transponder frequencies prior to doing the blind scan. Most if not all stbs should be able to do such a scan even after you've deleted all - or all but one - transponders from the list. The major advantage of doing the blind scan instead of a network scan is that the blind scan will only add the transponders that are active in YOUR area.
If this is uncharted territory for you then make sure to do a complete data save first to be safe. Or you can enter them manually. I strongly suspect that the list that Cessna Pilot posted in his excellent thread about scanning every channel on the 9200HD every time will have the freqs that you need as they are standard. But as it covers all the bases by listing all 32 transponders twice (once for SD, once for HD), I will provide you with a list that someone who wishes to remain nameless got by doing a satellite scan with their Sonicview 360 Premier (with the network scan option turned on). This list has the transponder frequency, S/R (Symbol Rate), polarity, and FEC (Forward Error Correction scheme):
1. 12.282 20000 V 5/6
2. 12.311 20000 V 5/6
3. 12.414 20000 H 5/6
4. 12.428 20000 V 5/6
5. 12.443 20000 H 5/6
6. 12.457 20000 V 5/6
7. 12.472 20000 H 5/6
8. 12.501 20000 H 5/6
9. 12.516 20000 V 5/6
10. 12.574 20000 V 5/6
11. 12.588 20000 H 5/6
12. 12.618 20000 H 5/6
13. 12.632 20000 V 5/6
14. 12.676 20000 H 5/6
15. 12.224 20000 V 5/6
16. 12.341 21500 V 2/3
17. 12.355 21500 H 2/3
18. 12.384 21500 H 2/3
19. 12.486 21500 V 2/3
20. 12.530 21500 H 2/3
21. 12.545 21500 V 2/3
22. 12.559 21500 H 2/3
23. 12.603 21500 V 2/3
24. 12.647 21500 H 2/3
25. 12.661 21500 V 2/3
26. 12.239 21500 H 2/3
27. 12.253 21500 V 2/3
28. 12.268 21500 H 2/3
29. 12.297 21500 H 2/3
30. 12.326 21500 H 2/3
31. 12.370 21500 V 2/3
32. 12.399 21500 V 2/3
Notes: Prior to doing the scan the person stated that their list of transponders for this orbital slot contained only 14 transponders. These transponders are out of numerical order - you can place them in order (lowest freq. to highest) if you like. The frequencies are listed in gHz but most likely you will enter them in mHz (IOW, don't use the . when entering the frequency lol). If you do not receive any signal on a given transponder it is likely a spot-beam one that doesn't broadcast in your area (or an HD transponder if you are using an SD stb). And as always, YMM
Ciel II @ 129°W
Have seen this bird mentioned in several threads. YES, it is officially active. Yes, it has a boat-load of channels. Yes, it uses spot-beam technology for most locals (perhaps all - if not, probably soon) which could throw a spanner into the NFL fan's plans next season.
Your current bin may or may not have a complete list of transponders for this orbital slot. Many don't as the wobbly bird that Ciel II replaced was unable to manage a full-power transmission with the full set active and therefore didn't.
If using a SonicView 360 Elite/Premier or other stb that has a network scan option, simply turn it on and do a regular satellite scan (some may have this option as a separate scan and in that case just do it). A network scan should add missing transponders even with only one active transponder in that satellite's list.
If using a stb that doesn't have the network scan option but does have a decent blind scan option (one that won't give duplicates) then you can use it. Often when one gets duplicates it is because the pre-programmed transponder list is slightly incorrect - off a couple mHz one way or the other on a few transponders so that when one blind scans and the correct transponder frequencies are added, both the correct and incorrect one will give the same channels. This is easily fixed by removing the incorrect transponder frequencies prior to doing the blind scan. Most if not all stbs should be able to do such a scan even after you've deleted all - or all but one - transponders from the list. The major advantage of doing the blind scan instead of a network scan is that the blind scan will only add the transponders that are active in YOUR area.
If this is uncharted territory for you then make sure to do a complete data save first to be safe. Or you can enter them manually. I strongly suspect that the list that Cessna Pilot posted in his excellent thread about scanning every channel on the 9200HD every time will have the freqs that you need as they are standard. But as it covers all the bases by listing all 32 transponders twice (once for SD, once for HD), I will provide you with a list that someone who wishes to remain nameless got by doing a satellite scan with their Sonicview 360 Premier (with the network scan option turned on). This list has the transponder frequency, S/R (Symbol Rate), polarity, and FEC (Forward Error Correction scheme):
1. 12.282 20000 V 5/6
2. 12.311 20000 V 5/6
3. 12.414 20000 H 5/6
4. 12.428 20000 V 5/6
5. 12.443 20000 H 5/6
6. 12.457 20000 V 5/6
7. 12.472 20000 H 5/6
8. 12.501 20000 H 5/6
9. 12.516 20000 V 5/6
10. 12.574 20000 V 5/6
11. 12.588 20000 H 5/6
12. 12.618 20000 H 5/6
13. 12.632 20000 V 5/6
14. 12.676 20000 H 5/6
15. 12.224 20000 V 5/6
16. 12.341 21500 V 2/3
17. 12.355 21500 H 2/3
18. 12.384 21500 H 2/3
19. 12.486 21500 V 2/3
20. 12.530 21500 H 2/3
21. 12.545 21500 V 2/3
22. 12.559 21500 H 2/3
23. 12.603 21500 V 2/3
24. 12.647 21500 H 2/3
25. 12.661 21500 V 2/3
26. 12.239 21500 H 2/3
27. 12.253 21500 V 2/3
28. 12.268 21500 H 2/3
29. 12.297 21500 H 2/3
30. 12.326 21500 H 2/3
31. 12.370 21500 V 2/3
32. 12.399 21500 V 2/3
Notes: Prior to doing the scan the person stated that their list of transponders for this orbital slot contained only 14 transponders. These transponders are out of numerical order - you can place them in order (lowest freq. to highest) if you like. The frequencies are listed in gHz but most likely you will enter them in mHz (IOW, don't use the . when entering the frequency lol). If you do not receive any signal on a given transponder it is likely a spot-beam one that doesn't broadcast in your area (or an HD transponder if you are using an SD stb). And as always, YMM