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RBBB
11-08-2007, 10:49 PM
please post all findings here....

Thanks goes to all who helped make this possible.....:chicken:

tilley
11-08-2007, 10:59 PM
While I have not tested it. That is a project for tomorrow. I would like to thank RBBB for being innovative and forward thinking enough to come up with this. Tough times bring out the true tester in all of us. Congrats RBBB on a job well done. The Ariza community owes you big!

Crazytrain
11-09-2007, 03:28 AM
LMFAO, another conversion before they help their own.
Great read and job:coolup:
The files talked about can be found
--> HERE <--- (http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/ariza-700-pansat-t16892/index.html)

black-knight
11-09-2007, 08:32 AM
:D :chicken: Way to go young man !!! Keep up the good work. "Keep on rocking the free world." Ariza will never be the same again.

just_angel
11-09-2007, 11:40 AM
Great work ..You rock !!!!!!!

so do you think maybe ..and i mean maybe someday we may be able do with the Serial cable again? like the pansat 2500 to 2700 convert using the cable instead of jtag

reason i'm asking is not all can jtag Hon...

RBBB
11-09-2007, 11:41 AM
I'm gonna keep playin and see

just_angel
11-09-2007, 11:45 AM
Thanks Darlin....i wish i could do more to help You


but i have a sick family member in the hospital and i'm getting ready to move shortly

truckman
11-09-2007, 12:34 PM
Thanks man, will help others convert over. Screw the Manufacturer.

RBBB
11-09-2007, 12:36 PM
Yippers truck you got it :coolup:

jaydar
11-09-2007, 04:10 PM
Thanks man, will help others convert over. Screw the Manufacturer.

Does anyone know if this will work for the 700S and is the jtag the same.

Great work!

Jaydar:chicken: :chicken:

RBBB
11-09-2007, 05:13 PM
I have not tested on it yet.....

jaydar
11-09-2007, 05:20 PM
I have not tested on it yet.....

I have several 750S doing fuck all! Willing to donate one for the cause.

Jaydar

RBBB
11-09-2007, 05:33 PM
Well if ya willing then try it and let me know cause i dont have one im testing the 750 at the moment so give it a shot...But the 750 is done differently so do not try with what i have posted...

just_angel
11-09-2007, 06:18 PM
RBBB Hun

the 700s should be good to go..the factory for the 700 also works with the 700s

Benney
11-09-2007, 06:30 PM
OK
I finally got this to take. Took about 15 minutes to roll for BV and about 5 for DN.

You need to be very careful and follow RBBB's instructions. Also get all your files lined up so you know where you are.

Thanks for all you assistance last night when I had a brain fart. LOL we were very tired but RBBB was willing to help as long as I wanted. I gave up and started again tonight.
YES it works.

Will it F**K up your STB YES it might so if you don't want to risk it don't do it.


S S M!

jaydar
11-09-2007, 06:31 PM
RBBB Hun

the 700s should be good to go..the factory for the 700 also works with the 700s

Angel, Do you or anyone else know how to make the jtag I can't find this information?

Thanks

Jaydar

Crazytrain
11-09-2007, 06:42 PM
Angel, Do you or anyone else know how to make the jtag I can't find this information?

Thanks

Jaydar
You check the blue stickies jaydar ;)

Benney
11-09-2007, 07:08 PM
This is the thread where I posted about what I did to make a Jtag cable. Pictures included. This is the cable I used today. Good Luck!

http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/ariza-700-rebooting-t13493/index4.html?highlight=jtag

Crazytrain
11-09-2007, 07:23 PM
Nice Benny,
sticky above too gives pin outs too and other stuff

khubb
11-09-2007, 07:23 PM
Just a question, whats with the Vortec file conversion? Does this work? Looks like a bin instead of a jtag file. Kinda confusing. Any feedback will be great. Thanks.

jaydar
11-09-2007, 07:52 PM
This is the thread where I posted about what I did to make a Jtag cable. Pictures included. This is the cable I used today. Good Luck!

http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/ariza-700-rebooting-t13493/index4.html?highlight=jtag

This is the info I needed!

Great Detail

Jaydar:coolup:

Benney
11-09-2007, 09:30 PM
Just a question, whats with the Vortec file conversion? Does this work? Looks like a bin instead of a jtag file. Kinda confusing. Any feedback will be great. Thanks.

Not trying to be funny here khubb but go over it all real careful be sure you have everything organized to start. Read and read again. It is confusing but if you take care you can follow it through. Don't rush it. Go slow and steady and it will work. Good Luck.

yoody
11-10-2007, 11:40 AM
Hi There,

I did convert Ariza 700 to Pansat 2700 as per the instructions. Everything went well. When I start Blind scan it finds 8 TPs in Horizontal then TV goes blank. After a minute it starts scanning channels, find some channels and I can see the progress. While scan was in progress TV went blank again. I see only 8s on the display and remote is not responding. I turned the switch at back off and on still it shows blank screen. I have 2 dishes. First on 97W and the other 121W. Could anyone please me to fix it?

Appreciate any help. I am not sure if this request needs to go to Pansat forum.

Thank you..

RBBB
11-10-2007, 11:48 AM
Try doin a factory reset and then blind scan remote should be workin fine unless u skipped a step somewhere

Gen. Chang
11-10-2007, 11:54 AM
the conversion works great. I tested it and better than ever thanks ...

wd_1173
11-10-2007, 11:55 AM
cool bug.. glad to hear bro... keep up the testing!!!

RBBB
11-10-2007, 11:56 AM
Thx for the reply bug and the info :coolup:

yoody
11-10-2007, 12:37 PM
Thank you RBBB for quick response. Initially, remote was working until I start blind scan. But after TV went blank it stopped responding, so I can't do factory reset from remote. Do you think I should load factory bin? If yes, which cable I need to use jtag or serial? Thanks again.

wd_1173
11-10-2007, 12:39 PM
restart the process by jtagging fact bin back onto the unit... then follow every step precisely as to what rb said to do.

yoody
11-10-2007, 01:04 PM
Thanks, WD. I will do that again. By the way, for factory bin I used VorteX 2700 Factory Flash.bin file(from folder 'JKeys for erasing and writing') for jtag and 2700.bin file(from folder 'All files for conversion') for GT rom lader. Did I select wrong file? I didn't use file Pansat 2700A_070310_B75_120_api.bin. Is it to be used, in which step? Thank you.

RBBB
11-10-2007, 01:07 PM
ok plz read the instruction yes use vortex fac bin when usin jtag then u use the pansat fac bin after u remove jtag ...

ricom
11-10-2007, 03:39 PM
does someone know if there is going to be a non jtag file that will do the conversion for ariza 700 to pansat?? There is some for fortec, pantec... so will be also be a reality or am i totally stuck doing the jtag version as i am not too familiar with jtagging with fta's!!!

wd_1173
11-10-2007, 03:41 PM
as mentioned earlier in this thread.. they are working on making a non jtag conversion... hopefully they can get it done.

RBBB
11-10-2007, 03:42 PM
Still messing with it, Right now its still early testing so if u cant or dont know how to jtag be patient and see what happens...

ricom
11-10-2007, 04:41 PM
Thanks eih!! I don't have to play with it for now!! I have other ird's hanging around and i have been using for a while now. But i'll wait for sure and if nothing happens, then, i'll give it a shot using jtag method.

mark1
11-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Well if ya willing then try it and let me know cause i dont have one im testing the 750 at the moment so give it a shot...But the 750 is done differently so do not try with what i have posted... Can you tell me how to do the 750? I have it running as a 700 right now.

insatiable1
11-10-2007, 07:00 PM
Everything is working except the receiver is not switching properly.

I am having problems with the diseqc settings.

Anyone else having this issue? Everything else is ok.

Scans in multiple feeds coming in wrong channels on the wrong sat.

:chicken: I am sure they work the bugs out...

RBBB
11-10-2007, 07:04 PM
Still in early stages of testing and yes there is some switching issues but all u need to be concerned with is that ur ariza is actually workin like it should...So dont mind the little things that are still bugs as we go they will get fixed...:chicken:

frequentflyer
11-10-2007, 07:16 PM
This is a great thing that has been accomplished. Thank you for all of that. I read in this thread that we cannot do this using null modem and firmware, is this correct?

Now for the big question. If one does not have the technical expertise to do the vodoo you do, how does one get this done for oneself?

Hope i'm not wasting anyones time in asking this.

RBBB
11-10-2007, 07:21 PM
This is a great thing that has been accomplished. Thank you for all of that. I read in this thread that we cannot do this using null modem and firmware, is this correct?

Now for the big question. If one does not have the technical expertise to do the vodoo you do, how does one get this done for oneself?

Hope i'm not wasting anyones time in asking this.

Well u need to jtag at the beginning and then from there u load all files through null cable.. If u do not have a jyag or do not know how to use then be patient ..Hopefully sooner than later i can get it to take all files through null cable.....

truckman
11-10-2007, 07:48 PM
People the only true way of doing this will be a jtag. Otherwise future file have a greater percentage of screwing up.
RBBB good work. Hope to be on board shortly.

RBBB
11-10-2007, 07:52 PM
Thx truck hope u on board soon some good stuff gonna happen here with this conversion... :coolup:

Benney
11-10-2007, 09:12 PM
Just thought I'd let you know that things are rolling along nicely here.
Only thing I haven't figured out is how to scan and not get double channels. LOL

RBBB:coolup:

yoody
11-10-2007, 09:50 PM
Help please..

I don't know what I am doing wrong still struggling to complete this conversion. 'VorteX 2700 Factory Flash.bin' jtaging goes very smooth, no trouble at all.

Couple of things I noticed that Loader never allow me to load factory bin if I just remove the jtag cable, I must cycle the power from back to get it going.

I tried loading 'Pansat 2700A_070310_B75_120_api.bin' and '2700.bin' as factory bins alternate times(cause I am not sure which one is right in that package). Also in step 4after loading b75_m file 8's are keep going, don't stop. On next step most of the time loader doesn't allow me load jvvh files even after I played a lot with timing. Some how, couple of times I was able to load jvvh files but again TV went blank while scanning and sits there.

I know this an isolated issue with my unit only, any help is very much appreciated. Thank you..

RBBB
11-10-2007, 10:06 PM
Help please..

I don't know what I am doing wrong still struggling to complete this conversion. 'VorteX 2700 Factory Flash.bin' jtaging goes very smooth, no trouble at all.

Couple of things I noticed that Loader never allow me to load factory bin if I just remove the jtag cable, I must cycle the power from back to get it going.

I tried loading 'Pansat 2700A_070310_B75_120_api.bin' and '2700.bin' as factory bins alternate times(cause I am not sure which one is right in that package). Also in step 4after loading b75_m file 8's are keep going, don't stop. On next step most of the time loader doesn't allow me load jvvh files even after I played a lot with timing. Some how, couple of times I was able to load jvvh files but again TV went blank while scanning and sits there.

I know this an isolated issue with my unit only, any help is very much appreciated. Thank you..

Ok once u load fac bin with jtag. Turn off machine and then unplug jtag and load on the pansat 2700 ract bin with the 27.02 loader.. then from there load on the b75 bin and if it wont load with the bl 1.3 loader then try the 27.02...The 8's goin across is fine just keep loading files they will stop and u must let machine reboot itself after every file do not turn off urself when file done...

frequentflyer
11-12-2007, 08:06 AM
Well u need to jtag at the beginning and then from there u load all files through null cable.. If u do not have a jyag or do not know how to use then be patient ..Hopefully sooner than later i can get it to take all files through null cable.....

RBBB,
Thank you. I will be patient. My patience has built up with the Ariza 700. Thank you for your and other's efforts to make this happen.

yoody
11-12-2007, 01:10 PM
Thanks RBBB for the help. Looks everything went alright this time. When scan my 1st sat (G25 for GC) it scans only horizontal TPs and channels. When it scans verticals TV goes blank. Any idea to fix it?

newfie504
11-12-2007, 01:29 PM
would like to say thanks for the hard work.

heres my problem and were i get stuck.

heres what i can do.
jtag part.
open wall did refresh.
open unlock and did the earse 3 times.
opened jkeys and did earse 3 times and loaded the VorteX 2700 Factory Flash.

then turned off at the back and unhooked jtag.
then opened gtrom27.02 loaded factory file Pansat 2700A_070310_B75_120_api let it reboot then get the 8's going across the front display.
then loaded the boot file Boot_2700A(b75)_(07)0310 and it loads and reboots but the 8's dont stop flash and cant load the rest of the files.

any ideas.
thanks.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 01:31 PM
jtag again and start over...

newfie504
11-12-2007, 01:39 PM
i have gtagged it 50 times,i been at it since it came out and get to the same spot and thats were it hangs.any more ideas.
i have jtagged it back to ariza each time and started over and still get the same thing.

Ronson Fuel
11-12-2007, 01:43 PM
Everything is working except the receiver is not switching properly.

I am having problems with the diseqc settings.

Anyone else having this issue? Everything else is ok.

Scans in multiple feeds coming in wrong channels on the wrong sat.

:chicken: I am sure they work the bugs out...

For those that have switching trouble, here's something you might try:

Make sure your switch is not more than 5' cable length from the ird. The shorter the better.

Cheers

newfie504
11-12-2007, 01:55 PM
ok forgot to ask when your done jtagging it do you close the wall/unlock and jkeys.this is how i was doing it jtagged the factory vortex then turn box off and closed all the wall/unlock and jkeys. then turned on at back and sent the file with 27.02 and when that was done sent the boot.and it still stays on 8's going back and forth.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 02:11 PM
ok forgot to ask when your done jtagging it do you close the wall/unlock and jkeys.this is how i was doing it jtagged the factory vortex then turn box off and closed all the wall/unlock and jkeys. then turned on at back and sent the file with 27.02 and when that was done sent the boot.and it still stays on 8's going back and forth.

Yes when you are done jtagging... Yes you can close walls etc...
Thats fine that i has the 8's just load the b75 file then the the rest from there the 8's will stop nightrider...

satman14e
11-12-2007, 02:23 PM
If ya wanna voice your opinion on what unit to get do it in threads where people are asking.. DON'T HIJACK THREADS... now with that I suggest ya READ THE RULES as ya first post was a bad one... and welcome to geeks.

newfie504
11-12-2007, 02:23 PM
ok i just jtagged the VorteX 2700 Factory Flash file.i turn off all wall/etc,ok. know if i understand right your load the Pansat 2700A_070310_B75_120_api with the 27.02 loader first.then you use the same loader and load the Boot_2700A(b75)_(07)0310 second.

newfie504
11-12-2007, 02:24 PM
SONICVIEW all the way sv1000.4000,8000 . HAVE ALL GREAT SUPPORT EXECELLENT E.P.G

i have those also,its just not about free tv some like to test.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 02:25 PM
SONICVIEW all the way sv1000.4000,8000 . HAVE ALL GREAT SUPPORT EXECELLENT E.P.G

satman lose the caps and also no hijacking......

cooper
11-12-2007, 03:29 PM
Just to say thanks to RBBB for the quick conversion of the 700.Plus to all the helped him keep up the good work and again THANK YOU

jaydar
11-12-2007, 04:47 PM
Finally got a jtag and tried to update. As soon as I started Wall it gives me an error (Incorrect ID Code). May be the jtag I bought it at a electronic store say's it was for the 2700.

Just to confirm the jtag goes in the LPT port. right?

Jaydar

RBBB
11-12-2007, 04:57 PM
If you have read the rerad me with the jtag info you would not be asking this question so plz re-read the read me file

newfie504
11-12-2007, 05:39 PM
hey rbbb i just cant get it to stop the moving 8's after the reboot with b75 boot file.it does the reboot after the file loads,starts back up and it just keeps the knight rider 8's.any more ideas.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 05:46 PM
after loading the b75 have u tried loading a file onto it that should stop the nightrider

newfie504
11-12-2007, 05:52 PM
thats where i run into trouble,i go to load a jvvh with BlacklistSTBUPDATER1.3 and it just wont load.it loads both filr with the gtrom27.02 no problem,then it gets the running 8's but cant load next step with the BlacklistSTBUPDATER1.3 .

RBBB
11-12-2007, 06:31 PM
Hmmm try turning machine off after reboots from usin 27.02 loader and setup the 1.3 loader and turn bk on and hit fix with the 209 file and see what happens

newfie504
11-12-2007, 06:49 PM
its the BlacklistSTBUPDATER1.3 thats wont let me update,i can always go back and load the boot and factory with 27.02.as you can tell i have been try every different ways but the BlacklistSTBUPDATER1.3 is where i cant get anything to write.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 07:15 PM
its the BlacklistSTBUPDATER1.3 thats wont let me update,i can always go back and load the boot and factory with 27.02.as you can tell i have been try every different ways but the BlacklistSTBUPDATER1.3 is where i cant get anything to write.

hmmm try loading the b75 with the bl 1.3 loader..
thats weird but try it and lets see

newfie504
11-12-2007, 07:19 PM
no cant load boot with the bl 1.3 loader,can load jvvh file with it either.

newfie504
11-12-2007, 07:23 PM
ok it doesnt work that way,next option can i jtag the jvvh into the ariza.

remo22
11-12-2007, 07:37 PM
Just a quick question... will i need a pansat remote when done or will the ariza remote work? i've read alot and i haven't seen any answer to that question. thanks in advance.

newfie504
11-12-2007, 08:00 PM
Just a quick question... will i need a pansat remote when done or will the ariza remote work? i've read alot and i haven't seen any answer to that question. thanks in advance.

no offence here but you didnt read good enough.says right under file.

Step 9 Do blind scans of sats.What u will notice is that your display shows 8's on it dont worry about it at this point just enjoy and watch t.v........And yes your ariza remote will work on this conversion......

RBBB
11-12-2007, 08:06 PM
ok it doesnt work that way,next option can i jtag the jvvh into the ariza.

well u can use jtag to load files but when tryin to load the b75 file did u switch it boot? also u can use the 27.02 loader to load b75 as well then use the 1.3 loader

newfie504
11-12-2007, 08:13 PM
well u can use jtag to load files but when tryin to load the b75 file did u switch it boot? also u can use the 27.02 loader to load b75 as well then use the 1.3 loader

the reason i asked about jtag is because.i can use the 27.02 to load the boot and the other file that needs to be loaded with 27.02 loader.its when you have to switch to bl v1.3 thats were all the problem is so was going to try and jtag all files to it.but i dont think you can because you have to erase to write each file.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 08:43 PM
well the instruction i posted are the way i do it and works for me but i would try jtag back and start over i know its a pain but thats part of testing..

RBBB
11-12-2007, 08:45 PM
PPL PLEASE DONT NOT PM ME QUESTION THAT ARE BEIN ANSWERED IN THIS THREAD...THATS WHAT THIS THREAD IS FOR AND ALSO INSTRUCTIONS ARE POSTED PLEASE READ THEM THANK YOU..........

newfie504
11-12-2007, 09:14 PM
the way you said to load the one part i cant do,you say do not turn off the box and load the two files with 27.02 loader,i cant load files with 27.02 loader unless i turn box of and on.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 09:18 PM
ya turning it off is fine i just typed the steps i used.. not a big deal...

newfie504
11-12-2007, 09:20 PM
ok thanks for the reply and help here.
i have it back to a ariza700 again and going to give it one more try.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 09:25 PM
cool dont give up you will get it just take your time..

newfie504
11-12-2007, 09:28 PM
ok one question before i load with jkeys in the read me it says pick Pansat 2700A - Flash2(28F160C3BD) but the file to pick is vortex is this the same file.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 09:30 PM
no pick the vortex one

newfie504
11-12-2007, 09:31 PM
ok loading it now.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 09:33 PM
You should have no probs now..

newfie504
11-12-2007, 09:43 PM
in your way to load says load pansat 2700 factory bin,is this the Pansat 2700A_070310_B75_120_api that little up in gtrom with the boot.the reason i ask because there is a zipped file called 2700 and in it there is a bin.
sorry to keep asking questions but i have been at this since it came out.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 09:49 PM
use the zipped file.. no probs here to help

newfie504
11-12-2007, 09:52 PM
okmaybe thats were i was going wrong i was using the on that came up in 27.02 loader,also if thats the case there is a b75m file in your package do i use this or the botb75 that comes up in the gtrom.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 09:55 PM
use the b75m file

Buteo401
11-12-2007, 10:26 PM
use the zipped file.. no probs here to help

Saturday I had it up and running, even watched a movie ( thanks by the way)
but was only getting horizontal transponders, so I reloaded Ariza files just to see if it was a software problem I was having or a hardware, turns out its software.
Now when I use the 2700.bin file, loads fine, language menu comes up, then a warning "Illegal Product", and all goes blank and I can not load any files, and must Jtagg back to the beginning.

RBBB
11-12-2007, 10:30 PM
Use the 2700 file thats zipped..
then go from there..

yoody
11-13-2007, 12:26 AM
I GUESS problem with my unit and couple of others (newfie504, Buteo401) is the serial cable (NULL CABLE)what we are using, atleast me. RBBB, could you explain which cable suppose to use (NULL or STRAIGHT) for GT Rom Loader and BL 1.3 loader?

Thank you for all your help..

Benney
11-13-2007, 05:12 AM
Null cable.

yoody
11-13-2007, 08:17 AM
Thanks Benney for the clarification. I read somewhere it should be straight one to load jvvh files to a clone 2700 and I have problem scanning vertical TPs so just curious. Thank you.

RBBB
11-13-2007, 08:20 AM
you would use the straight through when you are cloning pansat 2500's...to 2700...

newfie504
11-13-2007, 08:27 AM
as far as the cable goes its a null cable and thats what i have been using all along.i have also tried a straight threw cable and still cant get the blacklist loader1.3 to load anything.
still playing with it,,just wont load with v1.3 loader.

RBBB
11-13-2007, 08:33 AM
Well straight through isnt gonna work durin this process have u tried your timing when your loadin with the 1.3 loader u have to turn off machine wait till lights start showin then hit fix on loader...

newfie504
11-13-2007, 01:51 PM
RBBB thanks for all the help couldnt get it running your way so did some playing of my own.i now have a true pansat2700 clone.that will take dInErO clone safe files.thanks for all the hard work you put into it and was your ideas that help me in getting it to run a true pansat clone file.

thanks again.

RBBB
11-13-2007, 02:00 PM
No problem but i still dont understand where u were messin up....
you were doin something somewhere that was messin up the process and dinero;s files will also work on it

newfie504
11-13-2007, 02:16 PM
not sure what i was doing wrong spent two days trying so did some home work of my own having converted and running in two files.but the way i did it need pansat2700 remote.i couldnt even get the ariza to vortex one running.

RBBB
11-13-2007, 02:22 PM
Yippers thats the prob usin the other conversion thats floating around but u have it running so good luck and becareful....

newfie504
11-13-2007, 02:24 PM
i would post mine also but not sure if they would want 2.plus you need a 2700 remote.

Buteo401
11-13-2007, 02:40 PM
i would post mine also but not sure if they would want 2.plus you need a 2700 remote.

Newfie I for one would not mind, I can not get it to go either, I just finished loading Ariza files back.

kikid
11-13-2007, 04:05 PM
GREAT WORK RBBB :) Loaded as per instructions and only thing i find is the timing on the blacklist loader like you say at first sight of the first 8 hit fix and all went well... So with that only pet peeve i have is the blind scanning double's up on channels but no biggie that what channel edit is used for.. Again great job and the new file from chancy loaded like a charm....This is what keeps a great hobby going...

RBBB
11-13-2007, 05:43 PM
Glad to hear kikid and enjoy...

realguy88
11-13-2007, 11:39 PM
This might have been answered already I have been looking throught the post for two days, but can not find any pics for the ariza jtag, being what to do to the board, I have the jtag cable but no pins an board to plug into...
any help would be appreciated...

Ronson Fuel
11-14-2007, 02:26 AM
This might have been answered already I have been looking throught the post for two days, but can not find any pics for the ariza jtag, being what to do to the board, I have the jtag cable but no pins an board to plug into...
any help would be appreciated...


Pin layout:
5 X 13 4 3 2 X X X []
X X X X X X X X X X


Does that help?

realguy88
11-14-2007, 08:24 AM
so on the board do i only need to put pins in the location with numbers, or all locations? thanks..

NOKIA™
11-14-2007, 08:45 AM
read here for parts needed and how to make a Jtag cable

http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/jtag-parts-and-t17144/index.html

rubencito
11-14-2007, 09:40 AM
Will this work on 750 receiver flashed with a 700 bin.

Thanks

RBBB
11-14-2007, 10:52 AM
i'm still testing it but it should be alright...But if you patient i will release a step by step on how to with the 750..

cooper
11-14-2007, 11:40 AM
Just wondering RBBB if you would be able to make a 1 jtag file of the conversion by useing jkeys.Note computer crashed at home useing work computer not good by all means.

juda
11-14-2007, 02:31 PM
Would original Ariza remote works after conversion or do l need to buy
Pansat remote...!! Thanks guys

RBBB
11-14-2007, 02:50 PM
Yes your ariza remote will still work if use my conversion process..

juda
11-14-2007, 03:06 PM
Thanks RBB... for your quick reponse..:D

RBBB
11-14-2007, 03:41 PM
No problem anytime...

sasha1
11-14-2007, 06:53 PM
tried everything now jkeys will not let me in ird does not turn on anyhelp please

truckman
11-14-2007, 07:40 PM
RBBB help, my head is spinning trying to help others with your fix. The wall showS this. WTF.

RBBB
11-14-2007, 07:51 PM
RBBB help, my head is spinning trying to help others with your fix. The wall showS this. WTF.

If thats what walls is showin after u reset up and it doesnt change there is an issue with jtag... thats what i have found trust me went through 3 or 4 tags now.. Due to stress....

RBBB
11-14-2007, 07:54 PM
tried everything now jkeys will not let me in ird does not turn on anyhelp please

do u have walls running and if jkeys isnt letting u in u also may be havin jtag issues.. check connections / loose wire cold solder etc....

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 08:04 PM
Can someone post links to the loader 1.3. Impossible to find

RBBB
11-14-2007, 08:10 PM
loader 1.3 is with the rest of the files in the conversion post

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 08:33 PM
loader 1.3 is with the rest of the files in the conversion post

I keep getting it broken with only 2 files on it
! C:\All files for conversion.zip: Unexpected end of archive

truckman
11-14-2007, 08:42 PM
Thanks RBBB, he had the settings in unlock prog wrong.

kartracer
11-14-2007, 08:44 PM
I'm having problems running WALL. I keep getting "Could not acquire I/O. Windows NT/2K users must have administrative rights". I'm running XP. I am running wall from the same directory where it was zipped in. There's also a file call "Place Wall in this directory". What am I doing wrong? Can I use Skymax_up2.2 instead?

RBBB
11-14-2007, 08:44 PM
No prob man im here to help...

truckman
11-14-2007, 08:45 PM
Gone in 60 seconds.

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 08:51 PM
I've downloaded the "All files for conversion" file 4 times and its always corrupt. Could you possibly check it and repost it if its not just me?

truckman
11-14-2007, 08:53 PM
I've downloaded the "All files for conversion" file 4 times and its always corrupt. Could you possibly check it and repost it if its not just me?

Did this download not work ?

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 08:56 PM
Thanks TM

RBBB
11-14-2007, 09:01 PM
Hmm i will download and check it

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 09:02 PM
How about 209,211,217? I can't believe I can't find them myself, but Nobody keeps files around it seems (servers).

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 09:06 PM
I got the name for the new bird...... Arizat

Or the Panza, but I like Arizat better.

RBBB
11-14-2007, 09:07 PM
Well i have downloaded it and every file is fine... also nookie download the all in one evrything is there dont keep askin for files that is considered beggin.. and will get ya in trouble..so consider this your warning.. Truck was nice enough to post a file in the wrong area to try and help ya and thats a one time deal...So i suggest downloading the files again....

And Nookie it is now know as the (Pariza 2- 2700 RBBB ) lmfao

Forbidden
11-14-2007, 09:16 PM
I'm having problems running WALL. I keep getting "Could not acquire I/O. Windows NT/2K users must have administrative rights". I'm running XP. I am running wall from the same directory where it was zipped in. There's also a file call "Place Wall in this directory". What am I doing wrong? Can I use Skymax_up2.2 instead?



My friend tried to do the convert and ran into this problem also. Unsolved as of yet.

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 09:17 PM
Well, I'll see if #5 is the charm, I'm not an idiot btw. I don't need 'warnings', and I don't see how asking for a file I can't d/l could be considered Begging?

Anyways, where are the Jvvh files on the forums? All I can find are Pansat files. Maybe I'll try IRC.

Benney
11-14-2007, 09:28 PM
Well i have downloaded it and every file is fine... also nookie download the all in one evrything is there dont keep askin for files that is considered beggin.. and will get ya in trouble..so consider this your warning.. Truck was nice enough to post a file in the wrong area to try and help ya and thats a one time deal...So i suggest downloading the files again....

And Nookie it is now know as the (Pariza 2- 2700 RBBB ) lmfao


Dam it RBBB
Don't change the name again I've had to update my sig again. LMAO
Nice work man I've had it running for two days now with only
operator problems.:D

DBcooper
11-14-2007, 09:28 PM
look in the pansat 2500 files section. :D Your reciever just thinks it's a 2700. The JVVH is just a compressed version of the 2700a file that can be used on the 2500. :D All those other files you were asking for can be found there also.

sasha1
11-14-2007, 09:57 PM
lites on ird will not come on wall shows ird no# jkeys does not see ird gives me errors :(

RBBB
11-14-2007, 10:08 PM
Check ur connections on jtag and make sure all ok close walls and reopen...
Then rest up and see what happens..

kikid
11-14-2007, 10:19 PM
Well, I'll see if #5 is the charm, I'm not an idiot btw. I don't need 'warnings', and I don't see how asking for a file I can't d/l could be considered Begging?

Anyways, where are the Jvvh files on the forums? All I can find are Pansat files. Maybe I'll try IRC.

Just wondering why it is only you that can't download and extract the files?? I have downloaded them just now to tests and they work and the jvvh files and everything you need for the conversion is there in the two files posted by RBBB.I would check out your computer might be something with it just not sure why you can't get the files to work and seems like you are the only one... And smart ass remarks like this makes it all the better for a guy to help out the community no wonder sometimes people say ahhh the hell with it maybe it is not worth the headache... Any way enough of that the files do work that are posted period....

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 10:39 PM
Can someone write some instructions that make better sense plz? No offence RBBB, but there are a few contradictions and I find it so hard to understand you sometimes.

Like for example Step 3 open up gt rom loader 27.02 and load pansat 2700 factory bin.

What is the Bin called?
"Pansat 2700A_070310_B75_120_api" ?
Boot_2700A(b75)_(07)0310 ?

I'm not familiar with Pansat files, so you'll have to excuse me.

Even the Jtag instructions don't make sense.
On IRD Model drop down choose The 2mg setting
Yet I don't see a "2mg setting"
Click on Program and in the pop up choose the Pansat 2700A - Flash2(28F160C3BD) - Full file.
I don't see "Pansat 2700A - Flash2(28F160C3BD)" either

I'm not trying to nit pick here, just following broken instructions is frustrating. I Jtaged the "VorteX 2700 Factory Flash" with the Jkeys "IRD model - FS-5900" since the chip is the same, and using STi 2M didn't work.

It seems to take the B_75 m file, as the 8's stop nightriding. But I cant use the 1.3 Loader, it always fails, and the IRD 8's back and forth.

RBBB
11-14-2007, 10:45 PM
Ok Nookie when u done loading the 2700 file then when usin the bl1.3 loader setup loader then turn machine off from the back and then back on when you see the 8's start on display hit fix on loader and file will start loading its a timing thing with the bl 1.3 loader so take your time it will load for you...

Nookie_Monster
11-14-2007, 11:03 PM
I cant edit, yet I figured it out.

So I'll just sum it up, if no one minds

I used the same Jtag files I've always used for the 700 (IRD FS-5900) and walls, same steps, erase, program. I don't think the "unlock" is needed.

Jtaged the "VorteX 2700 Factory Flash" file. Leave the IRD on, but carefully remove the Jtag to be safe.

Hook up null modem and use the "GTRom Loader v27.02 [Pansat2700A - B75]" in the "2700A_loader" folder. Open and write the file in the "2700" folder named "2700"

then write the B_75 m file, again with the "GTRom Loader v27.02"

then shut the IRD off and open the "BlacklistSTBUPDATER1.3" and select the "jvvh_209_pwT" file.

Turn the rear switch on and count to 4, then click the "FIX" button on the BL 1.3.

When its done, shut it off, and load up the jvvh_211_pwTd.

Repeat till you have JVVH_UKR_220, then your done.

Thanks again RBBB.

wild bill
11-14-2007, 11:10 PM
dude if ya that smart why did ya need rbbb's file to start with ya should have had it figured it out with out any help

sasha1
11-15-2007, 07:37 AM
jtag works on other ariza700 still cant jtag other one something went wrong flashing it now no display cant seem to get back in with wall or jkeys is there a way to flash with wall

Buteo401
11-15-2007, 10:52 AM
jtag works on other ariza700 still cant jtag other one something went wrong flashing it now no display cant seem to get back in with wall or jkeys is there a way to flash with wall

Use skymax, to jtag it aleast back to Ariza files.

PAPS17
11-15-2007, 12:18 PM
Where can I get a jtag to buy

DBcooper
11-15-2007, 01:28 PM
search ebay for Jtag dont hijack

pchop6t9
11-15-2007, 02:00 PM
i have jtaged successfully 5 arizas, but i have an issue that happens with all of them, when doing a blind scan(with the Ukr_221_pwD_GC_Sspr) (or a power scan with the new CS_221Tv2_Lightning_100t_Series_serial fix) it doesnt pick up vertical transponder, it just finds the horizontal transponders again and duplicates the channels. i was wondering if it is just me with this issure or has anyone else had it?? and is their a possible fix.. or is their something i am doing wrong?? i am using a multiswitch with 2 sats and my settings are all correct, its just funny how it worked fine when i had the mingos fix on it.. and after the conversion i have this odd problem. it is the only problem i see.. other then that it looks like a good fix ( besides the scren showing 8888's lol.. but thats not a problem) any infromation on this problem RBBB??? the odd thig about it is that the ariza works fine with either 221 fixes if i am using my EMP-Centauri 9x4 Multi-Switch (Powered)w/Antenna input and my settings are (sat1 (119) diseqc 1, 22khz - off), (sat2 (110) diseqc 1, 22khz - on) ,(sat3 (91) diseqc 2, 22khz - off), (sat4 (61.5) diseqc 2, 22khz - on)

sasha1
11-15-2007, 02:33 PM
tried skymax have all 8888 but when i hit detect it shuts down in jkeys it shows all ffffff jdec or something like that

Empty
11-15-2007, 06:56 PM
RBBB,

I can not seem to be able to get past the jtagging it to a 2700, where in the instructions "step 2" says to run the unlock program.

Everytime I try to run the unlock program, I get an error message saying "no response from jInterface on COM1".

I have the jtag cable hooked up to the printer port and the null cable hooked up to the serial port. What am I doing wrong?

truckman
11-15-2007, 07:14 PM
RBBB,

I can not seem to be able to get past the jtagging it to a 2700, where in the instructions "step 2" says to run the unlock program.

Everytime I try to run the unlock program, I get an error message saying "no response from jInterface on COM1".

I have the jtag cable hooked up to the printer port and the null cable hooked up to the serial port. What am I doing wrong?

Could be wrong, but where does it say to hook null cable yet ?

jaydar
11-15-2007, 07:28 PM
RBBB,

I can not seem to be able to get past the jtagging it to a 2700, where in the instructions "step 2" says to run the unlock program.

Everytime I try to run the unlock program, I get an error message saying "no response from jInterface on COM1".

I have the jtag cable hooked up to the printer port and the null cable hooked up to the serial port. What am I doing wrong?

Empty, this should make your life easier!
http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/2700-rougesat-jtag-t897/index.html

Jaydar

Buteo401
11-15-2007, 07:37 PM
RBBB,

I can not seem to be able to get past the jtagging it to a 2700, where in the instructions "step 2" says to run the unlock program.

Everytime I try to run the unlock program, I get an error message saying "no response from jInterface on COM1".

I have the jtag cable hooked up to the printer port and the null cable hooked up to the serial port. What am I doing wrong?

Followed link after posting, follow link above.

truckman
11-15-2007, 07:40 PM
for unlocker program set the parrallel port settings to 0x378, and make sure it's grounded properly.

Empty
11-15-2007, 08:29 PM
jaydar, truckman, and buteo,

thanks a lot guys, I saw what I was doing wrong. Sincerly appreciate your help. :)

Nookie_Monster
11-15-2007, 10:55 PM
I get no channels on Vertical TP's 21, 19, 17, 15, 13, 11, 09, 07, 05, 03 On Bev. I have a normal disecq switch, and I bypassing it for a scan is going to be a pain, but its what I'll try.

Are most people getting all the Vu and Venus channel? I need my WFN channel!.

Nookie_Monster
11-15-2007, 10:58 PM
i have jtaged successfully 5 arizas, but i have an issue that happens with all of them, when doing a blind scan(with the Ukr_221_pwD_GC_Sspr) (or a power scan with the new CS_221Tv2_Lightning_100t_Series_serial fix) it doesnt pick up vertical transponder, it just finds the horizontal transponders again and duplicates the channels. i was wondering if it is just me with this issure or has anyone else had it?? and is their a possible fix.. or is their something i am doing wrong?? i am using a multiswitch with 2 sats and my settings are all correct, its just funny how it worked fine when i had the mingos fix on it.. and after the conversion i have this odd problem. it is the only problem i see.. other then that it looks like a good fix ( besides the scren showing 8888's lol.. but thats not a problem) any infromation on this problem RBBB??? the odd thig about it is that the ariza works fine with either 221 fixes if i am

Can you easily try without a switch while you scan? I do get a couple V TP's but not most.

realguy88
11-15-2007, 11:33 PM
i have a problem, I'm running windows vista, I try to open wall, and i get the following error
"Could not acquire I/O. Windows NT/2K users must have administrative rights."
I even tried to run as administrator, does anyone know how to fix problem
thanks

yoody
11-15-2007, 11:47 PM
i have a problem, I'm running windows vista, I try to open wall, and i get the following error
"Could not acquire I/O. Windows NT/2K users must have administrative rights."
I even tried to run as administrator, does anyone know how to fix problem
thanks

Open windows explorer, right click on wall.exe, click on Properties, click on tab Compatibility. Check mark 'Run this program...... and select Windows 2000. Click Apply, OK. You should be good to go.

Nookie_Monster
11-15-2007, 11:53 PM
realguy88 Turn your Jtag port around on the 700, its likely backwards. The row closest to the front panel is the ground (XXXXXXXXX) side.

realguy88
11-16-2007, 12:28 AM
on the board do i need all 20 pins in or can i get away with just the # one's not putting pins where the x's are??
x x x x x x x x x x
x x x x 2 3 4 13 x 5

Benney
11-16-2007, 05:30 AM
on the board do i need all 20 pins in or can i get away with just the # one's not putting pins where the x's are??
x x x x x x x x x x
x x x x 2 3 4 13 x 5

Thats right.
Don't forget the ground.

sunhill
11-16-2007, 12:09 PM
I converted my first Ariza 700 and it's working fine.I did a big mistake with my second stb,I unhook the jtag after Erasing but before programming the Vortex2700 file.The stb went off and now I cannot power it on.No power at all,is there any solution or I fried the box.Any help will be appreciated.Thanks.

RBBB
11-16-2007, 01:06 PM
Start the jtag process again and see what happens...

sunhill
11-16-2007, 01:50 PM
Restarted Jtag process,it says "ERROR reading from IRD(DCU peek).
Cannot go further.Thanks.

RBBB
11-16-2007, 02:21 PM
Double check al connections on jtag u may have a bad connection or wire

cooper
11-16-2007, 02:28 PM
I just loaded cs 221 lighting file and now my box keeps turning off when trying to scan sat.I reloaded the file again and same thing is it because the file was from the Fortec ultra section.Any help will be appreciated.Thanks.

RBBB
11-16-2007, 02:29 PM
Do a fac reset before scan..

cooper
11-16-2007, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the fast reply RBBB I tryed that did not work.

kartracer
11-16-2007, 02:45 PM
I'm going through step by step the "Read Before Starting" file after reading it twice. I'm now in step 2 which says:

Step 2

Start Unlock Program.
On IRD Model drop down choose The 2mg setting
Click on Flash Programming.
Just as soon as the Pop Up screen appears click OK.
Click on erase 3 times. Leave this progam running also.
Got to step 3

It says to "Click on erase 3 times. Where is the erase button? I've attached a jpeg of the Flash Programming screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

cooper
11-16-2007, 02:52 PM
kartracer it is the ulock button.

kartracer
11-16-2007, 03:14 PM
Thank you.

jaydar
11-16-2007, 03:34 PM
I converted my first Ariza 700 and it's working fine.I did a big mistake with my second stb,I unhook the jtag after Erasing but before programming the Vortex2700 file.The stb went off and now I cannot power it on.No power at all,is there any solution or I fried the box.Any help will be appreciated.Thanks.

sunhill, Jtag Back to 700 Factory Flash with the Skymax program and start over dont forget to set it to 2 meg, erase and then program the 700 factory flash.

Jaydar

sunhill
11-16-2007, 04:37 PM
Thanks Jaydar,since the box cannot be powered,the DCU Fail message appears.

realguy88
11-16-2007, 05:37 PM
Thats right.
Don't forget the ground.

So it would be better to have all 20 pins soldered to the board, or just the five pin locations that have numbers and one pin for the ground???

thanks

bigshowjh
11-16-2007, 05:52 PM
please delete post

tilley
11-16-2007, 06:25 PM
Well I got around to this last night and got it to work after not following the instructions and then following all of the instructions.

Using a 700S. Works perfectly not even double channels as previously reported. I did buy a Pansat remote that works for the 700S.

Many thanks to RBBB for an excellent test and many more thanks for reminding me of the basics!

Benney
11-16-2007, 06:51 PM
So it would be better to have all 20 pins soldered to the board, or just the five pin locations that have numbers and one pin for the ground???

thanks

If you look at the pics it shows what grounds to pin together on the db25 connector.

That wire then goes to pin 20.

realguy88
11-16-2007, 08:26 PM
If you look at the pics it shows what grounds to pin together on the db25 connector.

That wire then goes to pin 20.

i have a jtag cable assembled that i bought, just wondering if i need to put all 20 pins into the reciever, or not...

Benney
11-16-2007, 08:41 PM
i have a jtag cable assembled that i bought, just wondering if i need to put all 20 pins into the reciever, or not...

Is it a simple jtag cable? Does it look like the one in the pictures.

realguy88
11-16-2007, 09:26 PM
i bought one that was already put together it is the 20 pin and 10 pin connector in one cable. I got it from DIY GADGET, it was called the All In One (10 and 20 Pin) JTAG Cable, with product code DG-JTAG-S04...

bigshowjh
11-17-2007, 09:11 AM
I am having problems with no signal quality on the vertical transponders. Anyone have a cure for this? So far I have rejtagged and reloaded files with no success. As well my diseqc and legescy switch settings in the antenna setup don't seem to be doing anything. I have also hooked the rcvr up without any switches and I am still missing vert transponders. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.:)

Benney
11-17-2007, 10:00 AM
i bought one that was already put together it is the 20 pin and 10 pin connector in one cable. I got it from DIY GADGET, it was called the All In One (10 and 20 Pin) JTAG Cable, with product code DG-JTAG-S04...

try it it should work

Benney
11-17-2007, 10:02 AM
I am having problems with no signal quality on the vertical transponders. Anyone have a cure for this? So far I have rejtagged and reloaded files with no success. As well my diseqc and legescy switch settings in the antenna setup don't seem to be doing anything. I have also hooked the rcvr up without any switches and I am still missing vert transponders. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.:)

Several factory resets seemed to sort out mine.

hozercats
11-17-2007, 10:35 AM
ariza fix. check out *** states fix out for ariza. many have tried and states its working.

RBBB
11-17-2007, 10:40 AM
Now why would ya hijack a thread... Please read site rules..


http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/site-rules-read-t2170/index.html

realguy88
11-17-2007, 11:59 AM
so the cable should work but on the board do i just have to soder the ground and the 5 pin locations, and leave the other locations with out any pin on the board???
thanks

Buteo401
11-17-2007, 06:14 PM
Several factory resets seemed to sort out mine.

Sorry guys but this fix as great a step forward as it is, just does not fully work.
Even though I tried at first without question, I should have reasoned and with help I did realize that there is no way this conversion can fully work.
It does not get vertical transponders, and if it does it`s just coincidence's and all will be lost when you load a new bin, if not when you change channels.
This conversion is based on pansat, which is based on fortec units.
Fortec unit`s (thus pansat) adjust the LNB voltage controller output voltage via pin 206, ariza does this via pin 193. Pin 193 in the fortec is power on too the LNB and sits at a high, and stays there, 18volts goes to the LNB and does not change. If RBBB had taken this into account and reprogrammed it accordingly more units would be up and running by now.
Technically it just can not work as is!

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 08:30 AM
Restarted Jtag process,it says "ERROR reading from IRD(DCU peek).
Cannot go further.Thanks.

this may have been answered as this is gettin to be a huge section but , error reading IRD dcu peak or whatever is no problem and sometimes not even that the jtag is hooked up wrong , when that happens just close jkeys open wall and it'll "release" or reset the ird , close wall open jkeys , you should get "unknown or unidentified" select the fs 5900 , click flash program then open wall hit "ok" then hit "yes" back on the jkeys part and it should get you in

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 08:44 AM
So it would be better to have all 20 pins soldered to the board, or just the five pin locations that have numbers and one pin for the ground???

thanks


all i did was solder the 5 wires ( 2,3,4,13,5 ) right to the pins on the board ( couldnt find me a plug ) and nothing to the top row , just when making the jtag solder the 8 posts together ( the ones on the opisite side and a great way to get that done is using the clipping from your 5 resistors to make the ground complete ) then solder a wire with an alligator clip on the other end to the end post of the 8 that you just soldered together and the clip when clipped to the ird completes the ground ( i use the top frame rail or the sat in post ) and voila jtag ready !!! :) hope this helps

PAPS17
11-18-2007, 08:50 AM
is there a special jtag foe the Ariza 700 I want to jtag it to pansat 2700please advise where I can purchase that.

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 08:54 AM
Sorry guys but this fix as great a step forward as it is, just does not fully work.
Even though I tried at first without question, I should have reasoned and with help I did realize that there is no way this conversion can fully work.
It does not get vertical transponders, and if it does it`s just coincidence's and all will be lost when you load a new bin, if not when you change channels.
This conversion is based on pansat, which is based on fortec units.
Fortec unit`s (thus pansat) adjust the LNB voltage controller output voltage via pin 206, ariza does this via pin 193. Pin 193 in the fortec is power on too the LNB and sits at a high, and stays there, 18volts goes to the LNB and does not change. If RBBB had taken this into account and reprogrammed it accordingly more units would be up and running by now.
Technically it just can not work as is!
well thats unfortunate , but it is temporarily "working" for some

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 08:56 AM
is there a special jtag foe the Ariza 700 I want to jtag it to pansat 2700please advise where I can purchase that.
i think i spent 6 or 7 bucks @ rat shak and built 2 :) invest a cpl hours :)

Buteo401
11-18-2007, 09:18 AM
well thats unfortunate , but it is temporarily "working" for some

Did a little mod, disconnected pin 193 and connected pin 206 to the LNB controller, now no double channels , I get all transponders and all channels.( By AR)

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 09:42 AM
Did a little mod, disconnected pin 193 and connected pin 206 to the LNB controller, now no double channels , I get all transponders and all channels.( By AR)
nice ideas man , that sounds pretty cool , gonna have a look see if i can identify what you did and maybe duplicate it :)

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 09:43 AM
holy crap , my soldering tip is too large for that lol

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 09:48 AM
so basically you unhooked 193 ran a wire from it to 206 ?

bigshowjh
11-18-2007, 09:53 AM
Sorry guys but this fix as great a step forward as it is, just does not fully work.
Even though I tried at first without question, I should have reasoned and with help I did realize that there is no way this conversion can fully work.
It does not get vertical transponders, and if it does it`s just coincidence's and all will be lost when you load a new bin, if not when you change channels.
This conversion is based on pansat, which is based on fortec units.
Fortec unit`s (thus pansat) adjust the LNB voltage controller output voltage via pin 206, ariza does this via pin 193. Pin 193 in the fortec is power on too the LNB and sits at a high, and stays there, 18volts goes to the LNB and does not change. If RBBB had taken this into account and reprogrammed it accordingly more units would be up and running by now.
Technically it just can not work as is!
Thanks for the info, Brute. I tried reloading rejtagging many times and was getting frustrated.

Buteo401
11-18-2007, 11:13 AM
holy crap , my soldering tip is too large for that lol

I don`t want anyone to damage to receiver, so be carefull.(patient)
I tried up loading the files here put it did not take (maybe to large)
I`ll try up loading the picture and the text how to files.
The rest was just a rework of RBBB`s files and it sounds like you already have
that done.

Buteo401
11-18-2007, 11:21 AM
Be careful, with this you could damage your unit doing this mod to the point it is no longer any good. For soldering small tip ,low heat (30watts I used) do not use a butane soldering iron, they are just to hot.

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 12:04 PM
Be careful, with this you could damage your unit doing this mod to the point it is no longer any good. For soldering small tip ,low heat (30watts I used) do not use a butane soldering iron, they are just to hot.

ok so its not just a hardware mod though > i have done all of rbbb's work yes , but if i lift the pin and solder to asigned spot , is there still more jtagging to be done to accomodate this mod ? thanks so much for your info great stuff

Buteo401
11-18-2007, 12:27 PM
ok so its not just a hardware mod though > i have done all of rbbb's work yes , but if i lift the pin and solder to asigned spot , is there still more jtagging to be done to accomodate this mod ? thanks so much for your info great stuff

If you are getting horizontal transponders now, then you don`t need to do any more jtagging. This mod was made possible by RBBB and are his files used to get here. If you do the hardware mod then factory reset and setup your receiver, this time you`ll have both H/V transponders.
The only thing else would be to load , CS_221Tv2_Lightning_100t_Series_serial_.bin
if you have not already done so.

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 12:32 PM
If you are getting horizontal transponders now, then you don`t need to do any more jtagging. This mod was made possible by RBBB and are his files used to get here. If you do the hardware mod then factory reset and setup your receiver, this time you`ll have both H/V transponders.
The only thing else would be to load , CS_221Tv2_Lightning_100t_Series_serial_.bin
if you have not already done so.

thanks again , this mod is in my league :) have all RBBB stuff and yes the lightning file too , so i'll just pull pin 5 on that chip solder a wire from it to C77 and do a factory reset and i should be good to go , thanks again , initially i thought i had to lift a pin on the main processor :P thanks god i don't

will let you know how i do shortly

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 01:22 PM
and if you are not getting horizontals with everything RBBB has done and want to , can you "just" do this mod or do you have to jtag again ?
so basically can you start with step 1 of RBBB's work follow it right through to the end but before you go and hook up to signal for a scan , you do this mod and you shouldnt have to jtag anything else ? like the machine is already gonna understand what we have done with pin 5 to C77 ? sorry for being a pain , just wanna be thorough ( already have the mod done and am scanning now )

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 01:31 PM
did a fact reset , scaned and still got dbl chans , when setting up mimq 1 i went to tp's and went through them and was only showing quality on the verts and none on the horizontals , thanks for such darn fast replies too :)

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 02:05 PM
ok , hehehe i made a mistake , i had the chancysand 222 file loaded not the 221tv2 so i loaded that , did a fact reset , selected nimiq and it has horizontals and verticles , so far so good , did a scan and NO dbl channels and just checking through the guide now to see if i not anything missing :) thanks so much for your help and input , hopefully this will help others to get theirs going as the pansat format seems more stable ( no rebooting ) and a nicer guide and such lol

Buteo401
11-18-2007, 02:06 PM
did a fact reset , scaned and still got dbl chans , when setting up mimq 1 i went to tp's and went through them and was only showing quality on the verts and none on the horizontals , thanks for such darn fast replies too :)

Make sure pin 5 is not still making contact with the board. Double check that you did not bridge pins 4 or 6 when soldered your wire to pin5.
Also where C77, make sure your connected to the pad closes to the 5518 chip and thats it not bridging to the other pad of C77.
As far as fast relies go I`ll take that as a joke, unless I start receiving vast amounts money from you or an other computer that my son can plays his games on.

Buteo401
11-18-2007, 02:07 PM
ok , hehehe i made a mistake , i had the chancysand 222 file loaded not the 221tv2 so i loaded that , did a fact reset , selected nimiq and it has horizontals and verticles , so far so good , did a scan and NO dbl channels and just checking through the guide now to see if i not anything missing :) thanks so much for your help and input , hopefully this will help others to get theirs going as the pansat format seems more stable ( no rebooting ) and a nicer guide and such lol

Glad to hear.

gourmet7
11-18-2007, 04:23 PM
Where can i find all files i need to convert my ariza 700 to pansat 2700?

thanks

truckman
11-18-2007, 04:59 PM
Where can i find all files i need to convert my ariza 700 to pansat 2700?

thanks

here, it's called the file section

http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/ariza-700-files-f35/index.html

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 06:19 PM
Make sure pin 5 is not still making contact with the board. Double check that you did not bridge pins 4 or 6 when soldered your wire to pin5.
Also where C77, make sure your connected to the pad closes to the 5518 chip and thats it not bridging to the other pad of C77.
As far as fast relies go I`ll take that as a joke, unless I start receiving vast amounts money from you or an other computer that my son can plays his games on.lmao , no seriously though , you replied real quick man and i totally appreciate it your help has been awesome , , i now have 2 pariza's running with that hardware mod that you posted , the only thing i have noticed is that , the ird's both have rebooted outa nowhere , once i was touring through the guide on the one in my bedroom and just used the "exit" button and it exited alright lol , but when it came back on i didnt have to reset anything , not even the time which was nice , now my buddies ird is in the living room and i went to switch it from nimiq pack to echo pack and the screen went grey and it shut off , again i didnt even have to reset the time , and they have both done it only once in about 6 hours of running . Also on the one in the living room is where i have 110 119 91 and 82 run in through a disecq switch and it find all the bev channels as far as i can tell but it doesn't find all the dish , it's like it only sees one of them ( i have 5 of these switches new in box and swapped em out to the same result ) . Now have read alot in this post and it seems as though this is a glitch still in works , i just wasn't sure if this mod may have possibly helped to remedy the switch understanding .
thanks again

Buteo401
11-18-2007, 06:56 PM
lmao , no seriously though , you replied real quick man and i totally appreciate it your help has been awesome , , i now have 2 pariza's running with that hardware mod that you posted , the only thing i have noticed is that , the ird's both have rebooted outa nowhere , once i was touring through the guide on the one in my bedroom and just used the "exit" button and it exited alright lol , but when it came back on i didnt have to reset anything , not even the time which was nice , now my buddies ird is in the living room and i went to switch it from nimiq pack to echo pack and the screen went grey and it shut off , again i didnt even have to reset the time , and they have both done it only once in about 6 hours of running . Also on the one in the living room is where i have 110 119 91 and 82 run in through a disecq switch and it find all the bev channels as far as i can tell but it doesn't find all the dish , it's like it only sees one of them ( i have 5 of these switches new in box and swapped em out to the same result ) . Now have read alot in this post and it seems as though this is a glitch still in works , i just wasn't sure if this mod may have possibly helped to remedy the switch understanding .
thanks again

The person who came up with this jumper change, say`s the author of lighting bin, reports rebooting. I my self have not noticed this, yet. I never followed the cloned pansats forum, guess that will change now. Not sure what you get or lose with the JVVH_UKR_220.bin, but you may want to try that one. As far as glitches I`am sure you`ll agree not bad for just 2 week. Have no idea how long RBBB was working on this though.
Personally I love this change, fast scans , and no entering time other than GMT.

devilishdel
11-18-2007, 07:08 PM
The person who came up with this jumper change, say`s the author of lighting bin, reports rebooting. I my self have not noticed this, yet. I never followed the cloned pansats forum, guess that will change now. Not sure what you get or lose with the JVVH_UKR_220.bin, but you may want to try that one. As far as glitches I`am sure you`ll agree not bad for just 2 week. Have no idea how long RBBB was working on this though.
Personally I love this change, fast scans , and no entering time other than GMT.
yeah im with you on the likeness of the change , the scans are way faster the guide is more regular , and yeah the time is nice lol i haven't tried the jvvh220 since i did the mod , but thats cuz i figured it needed to be the 221 by chancysand , and yep as far as bugs go , it's got less than it had lol anyway thanks again

jaydar
11-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Saturday I had it up and running, even watched a movie ( thanks by the way)
but was only getting horizontal transponders, so I reloaded Ariza files just to see if it was a software problem I was having or a hardware, turns out its software.
Now when I use the 2700.bin file, loads fine, language menu comes up, then a warning "Illegal Product", and all goes blank and I can not load any files, and must Jtagg back to the beginning.

Buteo, Can I ask how you resolved this? I am having the same problem with my second conversion.

Thanks
Jaydar

Buteo401
11-19-2007, 04:49 AM
lmao , no seriously though , you replied real quick man and i totally appreciate it your help has been awesome , , i now have 2 pariza's running with that hardware mod that you posted , the only thing i have noticed is that , the ird's both have rebooted outa nowhere , once i was touring through the guide on the one in my bedroom and just used the "exit" button and it exited alright lol , but when it came back on i didnt have to reset anything , not even the time which was nice , now my buddies ird is in the living room and i went to switch it from nimiq pack to echo pack and the screen went grey and it shut off , again i didnt even have to reset the time , and they have both done it only once in about 6 hours of running . Also on the one in the living room is where i have 110 119 91 and 82 run in through a disecq switch and it find all the bev channels as far as i can tell but it doesn't find all the dish , it's like it only sees one of them ( i have 5 of these switches new in box and swapped em out to the same result ) . Now have read alot in this post and it seems as though this is a glitch still in works , i just wasn't sure if this mod may have possibly helped to remedy the switch understanding .
thanks again

If you read the file here,
http://www.dssgeeks.com/forums/5518-pin-reference-t16772/index.html?t=16772
You`ll see pin 104 for the ariza goes to the display, the forect pin 104 is the 22 khz for switching switch.
I don`t use switches, so I don`t miss them nor can I test them, just showing you why they most likely don`t work.

devilishdel
11-19-2007, 06:17 AM
lol thanks again man

devilishdel
11-19-2007, 06:21 AM
Buteo, Can I ask how you resolved this? I am having the same problem with my second conversion.

Thanks
Jaydar

page 20 and 21 i think are the pages that i started doing the mod ( that bute pointed out ) to the ird so it would bring in both H/V tps , it's a really easy mod , if you have gotten this far you may aswell lift that pin 5 and solder the wire from it to C77 load up the 221tv2 chancysand , do a reset and scan and you should have all your tp's/channels back

jaydar
11-20-2007, 04:56 PM
page 20 and 21 i think are the pages that i started doing the mod ( that bute pointed out ) to the ird so it would bring in both H/V tps , it's a really easy mod , if you have gotten this far you may aswell lift that pin 5 and solder the wire from it to C77 load up the 221tv2 chancysand , do a reset and scan and you should have all your tp's/channels back

Devilishdel, I am converting a 700S and this unit has a completely different board. If anyone has the info to do the mod for this unit would be appreciated.

Unlike the 700 when converted you get all V and h and double channels no rebooting issues but you have to use a 2700 remote to get the epg.

My first unit went well but my second just wont happen.

Jaydar

bigshowjh
11-20-2007, 08:25 PM
Be careful, with this you could damage your unit doing this mod to the point it is no longer any good. For soldering small tip ,low heat (30watts I used) do not use a butane soldering iron, they are just to hot.

Bruteo
I was wondering if u had a better picture of the solder position of the connection to go to c77 (kind of blury). From the picture it looks like the wire is going to a surface mount resistor just below c77, and not the c77 capacitor pad. I just want to make sure I get the right position. Thanks

Buteo401
11-20-2007, 09:24 PM
Bruteo
I was wondering if u had a better picture of the solder position of the connection to go to c77 (kind of blury). From the picture it looks like the wire is going to a surface mount resistor just below c77, and not the c77 capacitor pad. I just want to make sure I get the right position. Thanks

You did remove the SVideo board, right, as C77 is under it. There is only one C77, its an unpopulated part of the board, 3rd unpopulated SMD ( not the round ones) starting from the RS232 chip. Use the pad closes to the 5518 decoder.
Clearer No,

RBBB
11-21-2007, 02:24 AM
The person who came up with this jumper change, say`s the author of lighting bin, reports rebooting. I my self have not noticed this, yet. I never followed the cloned pansats forum, guess that will change now. Not sure what you get or lose with the JVVH_UKR_220.bin, but you may want to try that one. As far as glitches I`am sure you`ll agree not bad for just 2 week. Have no idea how long RBBB was working on this though.
Personally I love this change, fast scans , and no entering time other than GMT.

I guess you can say not bad for 2 weeks considering i did what i did in 2 days but hey..Some work faster then others...Who am i to talk,all's that matters is ppl are actually tryin diff things now and not depending on support that is basically non exsistant..

barehill
11-22-2007, 08:30 AM
Jtag with JKeys and probably flashed the wrong file. Now the 700 doesn't boot-up on power up. Is it toast?

RBBB
11-22-2007, 09:08 AM
start the jtag process over

barehill
11-22-2007, 11:08 AM
RBBB,
Thanks for the quick reply. The unit doesn't answer any Jtag programs, it acts like its dead, no front panel lights on powerup from either the 110 switch or the front panel.

RBBB
11-22-2007, 11:12 AM
well meter to make sure ya gettin power...
if fuse exsists then check that also, dont have in front of me so cant remember if they have fuse or not...

tilley
11-22-2007, 10:04 PM
RBBB,
Thanks for the quick reply. The unit doesn't answer any Jtag programs, it acts like its dead, no front panel lights on powerup from either the 110 switch or the front panel.

Barehill,

I have been down this road before...It may look dead (no lights) but a jtag will bring it back....Make sure your connections are tight when us jtag...... If it responds in the wall or unlock, it will come back.

barehill
11-23-2007, 04:33 PM
Tilley and RBBB,
Thanks for the tips and it worked the 2nd time around. Went through Wall/Unlock/JKeys operations all OK. Then went through the GTRom Loader and finally BL1.3 also OK (ie files wrote successfully). Box sequences 8's after power on. But it doesn't provide any onscreen video, nor respond to the 'mote. More work to do.....

RBBB
11-23-2007, 04:35 PM
Tilley and RBBB,
Thanks for the tips and it worked the 2nd time around. Went through Wall/Unlock/JKeys operations all OK. Then went through the GTRom Loader and finally BL1.3 also OK (ie files wrote successfully). Box sequences 8's after power on. But it doesn't provide any onscreen video, nor respond to the 'mote. More work to do.....

Well if all steps were followed then ur remote should work and ya should have video....

barehill
11-23-2007, 05:21 PM
RBBB,
Got it. Problem was pressing the off/on button on the front of the IRD too slowly. Now doing a scan of birds as a Pansat.
Amazing, one of the best testing projects I've done yet, bringing the Ariza back from la-la land. :D
Thanks!!

bigshowjh
11-24-2007, 07:59 AM
You did remove the SVideo board, right, as C77 is under it. There is only one C77, its an unpopulated part of the board, 3rd unpopulated SMD ( not the round ones) starting from the RS232 chip. Use the pad closes to the 5518 decoder.
Clearer No,


Hi brute just wondering if you could take a look at this picture i uploaded I believe the correct soldering location is the pad I have circled in blue. Thanks

bigshowjh
11-24-2007, 06:55 PM
All good working perfectly now thanks brute401 and RBBB

34gtp
11-24-2007, 08:14 PM
Ok, trying to jtag my Ariza but it's not going well.

In the instructions it says to choose the 2mg setting for the IRD on the drop down. I do not have a line that says that. I get

unknown
STi55xx_1M
STi55xx_2M
4900
LSI_SC2000_2M

What do I choose?

JTAG Info says device ID is STi5518MVB-X

tilley
11-24-2007, 08:16 PM
Ok, trying to jtag my Ariza but it's not going well.

In the instructions it says to choose the 2mg setting for the IRD on the drop down. I do not have a line that says that. I get

unknown
STi55xx_1M
STi55xx_2M
4900
LSI_SC2000_2M

What do I choose?

JTAG Info says device ID is STi5518MVB-X


Use this one:

STi55xx_2M

34gtp
11-24-2007, 08:21 PM
Use this one:

STi55xx_2M


Ok, Now I get Flash codes are not recognized by Jkeys mfg/device codes returned are FFFFFFFF/FFFFFFFF (jedec) and FFFFFFFFF/FFFFFFF (flashfile)

tilley
11-24-2007, 08:26 PM
Check your connections on the jtag. Make sure they are tight.

34gtp
11-24-2007, 08:31 PM
Ok, now I do not get a screen that has an erase button after I Click on flash programing and click OK on the pop up. It states to click on erase 3 times but the screen that is shown doesn't have it

RBBB
11-24-2007, 09:10 PM
On the unlocker hit unlock 3x then when usin jtag hit erase 3x.....

devilishdel
11-27-2007, 08:08 AM
one thing i noticed is that the co-ax tv out doesnt work on all channels . not sure if its in the mod or the conversion as i have modded all and not tested with an unmodded converted pariza , not a big issue , just something i noticed , lol who uses that much these days though !

RBBB
11-27-2007, 09:51 AM
one thing i noticed is that the co-ax tv out doesnt work on all channels . not sure if its in the mod or the conversion as i have modded all and not tested with an unmodded converted pariza , not a big issue , just something i noticed , lol who uses that much these days though !

Thanks for info del but i myself dont use co-ax out so cannot confirm but maybe someone else can....

tilley
11-27-2007, 12:08 PM
Yes it is a bit finicky with coax out. Nothing a quick channel change on the TV won't fix.

paramedic6399
12-05-2007, 10:44 AM
Hi,do you know if it's possible to convert the 700 to 2700 from serial ..!
Thank's:eek:

tilley
12-05-2007, 10:54 AM
Hi,do you know if it's possible to convert the 700 to 2700 from serial ..!
Thank's:eek:

Nope.

The Jtag solution is the only one so far.

If you don't want to make a Jtag, you can buy as they are very inexpensive.

RBBB's instructions are very good if you take the time to read and understand them.

There is almost always someone in chat that can help you out.

Whatever you decide is up to you but I can confirm that it worked for me and I am happy, happy, happy.

webcrazy
12-08-2007, 01:50 PM
have a small problem, wondering if anyone else has gone through this..
Did a conversion, soldered a wire - everything seem to be OK. Seems to be getting intermittent signal on some of the transponders - the quality jumps from 0% to 90% non stop. I rechecked my soldering (that pin 5 is tricky) - everything seems to be OK. 2 vertical and 1 horizontal transponders are affected. Wondering if this is even related to the conversion or LNB. Can anyone shed some light?

luv2tap
12-12-2007, 12:20 AM
please upload the working binfile for ariza 700

h_townesp785
12-12-2007, 01:15 AM
please upload the working binfile for ariza 700

no bin begging luv2tap they are uploaded as soon as they are received and tested.... the latest file has been posted

Jetsetter3
12-16-2007, 04:21 PM
i have to give feedback on my pariza...this thing i now affectionately call frankenstein.
this puppy just don't wanta die.i have f'd up so many times, but to my amazement she still works(dn provider) and i have to say thanx to this site for all the help and balls its given me.

scorpio123
03-09-2009, 10:00 AM
thanks to all for info,,,have a problem after ariza 700 conversion,,will not load channels,,no quality shown after loading current file,,any help available ,,,thanks,,

Al Bundy
03-09-2009, 10:22 AM
Do a hard boot(back switch) and let keys roll?Do a factory reset and redo settings and scan again?

Ultra 500
03-09-2009, 12:15 PM
Have you been keeping up with the updates or is this a fresh conversion? Did you switch from useing New Phase for a long time and then to Pariza updates or visa versa? Check to see if the skew is working right-changeing values. I've had mine lose the control of the skew after an update and it would stay at zero. Therefore no signal,no channels. Factory reset did take care of that.There is a newer "BOOT File" for the converted units to get everyone on the same page to speak of, you might try that? Also if memory serves me correct,we used to have to Power scan after some of the infamous Mingo files sometimes to get signal,I know don't use that name!!!!:eek:

PAPS172
04-12-2009, 06:20 PM
Ariza 7oo Serial conversion use hyperterm to load bootfile what is hyperterm, need help with that.